Operators, read mail and news

Traditional selection of your letters with comments and clarifications. As well as news on tariffs and services, of which the most interesting and unusual is the transformation of extra minutes into the necessary gigabytes of traffic. And the most alarming is another modification of the popular Super MTS tariff

Our "mail" heading has taken root. Largely due to the fact that this is not just a place to complain and complain about the plight of the subscriber. A lot of useful constructive, and sometimes you learn something that could not even come to mind. And, of course, your comments, each analysis of mail turns into a kind of collective creativity.

No phone anywhere

Recently, we discussed tariffs without a monthly fee, review here. Indeed, I missed one of the important aspects, and they corrected me, quote:

“There is another option for using tariffs without a subscriber, which is not described in the text. Quite a lot of people live temporarily abroad, continuing to keep some kind of accounts in Russian banks. Often, this is simply necessary - for some time now, many payment systems have not accepted payments from foreign cards (for example, try to pay for the phone, in my case, also the rent, etc.). Payments do not go through Russian processing centers - you have to keep at least some positive balance on your accounts. This is where SIM cards with Russian numbers are needed - to work with banks. Since 2011, I have been keeping Beeline on a per-second tariff exclusively for these purposes.

And once again they reminded that it is undesirable to use the main phone number for financial transactions. This is where a number without a monthly fee comes in handy: it doesn’t ask for porridge and you can’t “shine” it anywhere.

Operators, read mail and news

I also noticed that services increasingly began to require a phone number. It is clear with instant messengers, and we have already discussed this, but there are also surprises. For example, my ISP suddenly asked for a phone number when trying to top up my account. And then the payment system on its page also claimed the number. It would seem, why do they need my phone? So many years have been fine without it. In general, the point is that with every sneeze they will require a number. And if you remember about the recent tightening of registration rules when buying / receiving a SIM card, it becomes a little uncomfortable. They explain it by the fight against terrorism, but a terrorist will always get a "left" SIM card for himself.

About Super MTS

Operators, read mail and news

News on the topic of tariffs without a monthly fee, a new version of the tariff is coming out on November 13, there are no details yet. Old in the archive, the conditions for previously connected do not change. The news is important because there are millions on this tariff and this is the undisputed leader among tariffs without an MTS monthly fee. I don’t remember what the Super MTS tuning was, the previous ones were not for the better. Will they reduce the number of free minutes on the network again? It is unlikely that less than 20 minutes will somehow look unaesthetic. You can do the opposite: add free minutes, but make the first minute of each conversation paid, as was done in MegaFon, including on archival tariffs. Okay, let's not speculate and wait for the specifics. However, it will not be harmful to have time to take and activate a SIM card before November 13, if you planned to connect. If the new tariff turns out to be better for you, then you can switch to the new version in a month, no worries.

Tele2, turning minutes into gigabytes

Tele2 continues to fulfill its promises to surprise with non-standard solutions, and this time they really surprised us, you can’t argue. You can read the description here.

Operators, read mail and news

Now extra or not very necessary minutes can be converted into Internet traffic. Valid on the tariffs of the My Tele2 line. First, gigabytes received in exchange for minutes are spent, then transferred from the previous month, then the Internet package included in your tariff. The volume of Internet traffic received in exchange for minutes is not transferred to the next billing period, but this is hardly critical: the "bartered" traffic is spent first.

When you change the tariff plan, unused Internet traffic also burns out.

You can use the service throughout Russia, with the exception of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

Operators, read mail and news

See the exchange rate in the screenshot above, you can also change minutes to gigabytes through the My Tele2 application. The number of exchanges within a month is not limited. What to say? A very practical service. It is positioned as an urgent duty officer for exchanging excess for what you need, pay yourself a subscriber at a package rate and do not worry about missing minutes. The very concept of a “bag” is partially destroyed: the idea is that the client receives a little (or a lot) of all the products in the “basket”, but basically uses only the part he needs. The rest is in the trash. And here already the tariffs are starting to look quite different. For example, the budget "My conversation" can now give out for its 199 rubles. already 4 GB of traffic per month, if you don't need 200 minutes. Or, for example, up to 17 GB instead of 12 GB on My Online, which for Moscow is 400 rubles. not bad.

No, the ideal (full constructor) is still far away, and I have already seen indignant comments on the forums: “On the contrary, I don’t have enough minutes with extra gigabytes! What kind of discrimination is this?!” There is no perfection in the world, alas. Do not forget about the "Set up a tariff for yourself" function, where you can add minutes and traffic, but there the result is noticeably more expensive than the correct choice of tariff. The main thing is that the current “exchanger” has a completely different ideology: not to buy traffic that is not enough, but to exchange extra minutes for traffic without any additional payments.

Beeline, about 64 Kbps

It's interesting how the themes intertwine. Recently, a person complained to me on Twitter that he could not start switching to a low speed of 64 Kbps after the main traffic packet was used up.

Operators, read mail and news

Beeline promised to look into the situation, we'll see. It may be a separate failure, or it may turn out to be a warning sign that some work is being done in this direction. I would like to read the comments of those who have recently encountered this phenomenon (if there are any among readers). Let me remind you: almost everyone has already abandoned the scheme of switching to free 64 Kbps after the package is exhausted, it is more profitable for operators to sell additional packages of full-fledged traffic. It is especially pleasant to do this in automatic mode. Beeline provided a hybrid compromise: paid auto-renewal is enabled by default, but you can refuse it, and then 64 Kbps should turn on without any additional payments. Personally, I would not be surprised if such an opportunity is turned off in Beeline, now it has already become a rarity in our market.

"Nature has no bad weather"

But there is Yandex.Weather. Weather advice from Yandex from yesterday suddenly began to come in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius (I checked the settings). Accidentally poked and slightly stunned. The 40 degree tip is OK, doable. But still, you need to check, what if some wrong advice?

Operators, read mail and news

In comparison with the application, did you add functions and information content? Not at all, in this sense nothing has changed. They just stuffed hefty ad blocks every 2 lines of the weather forecast and removed the precipitation map button to the very bottom of the long ribbon. Now you will erase your finger while scrolling to the map all this Yandex.Direct advertising, in the screenshots I showed you less than half of this advertising feed.

Operators, read mail and news

Like this in the application. One click and maybe move the screen down or to the side a little. Everything about everything takes 15-20 seconds. But the site is in trouble, it takes at least 4 times more time and probably the same (if not more) times more traffic. What's next? It is not difficult to guess, they will start playing advertising videos through each line. It was such a waste of a good product! Actually, I had two reasons to write about it:

  • Recommend a convenient and bug-free alternative with a weather + clock widget on the desktop
  • If you use and intend to continue using the Yandex.Weather application, then refrain from downloading updates. I feel that soon the application may become unwell.

Or is it me that Google started to make happy with Russian letters? To be honest, I'm too lazy to figure it out.

About SIM cards

“I am very interested in the issue of "unnecessary" SIM cards, please tell us whether it is necessary to terminate the contract for old or unnecessary, unused SIM cards. When I came to the salon to terminate the contract, the manager said "just don't use it for 90 days and the SIM card is no longer yours." It seems to be true, but the doubt remains. And do I need to take a copy of the application for termination / closure of the contract?”.

Good question. A couple of years ago, I strongly recommended that you terminate all contracts and, by the way, check whether “left” contracts have been concluded for your passport data. In this particular case (see the letter above), there is no categorical answer. A SIM card without paid actions and at a public rate, in theory, should quietly die a natural death, and the number will pass to another owner without any financial consequences for the previous owner. For a long time I have not heard about auto-connection of something paid on inactive SIM cards with a zero balance. This is not interesting for the operators themselves either: for 30-50 rubles. “duty” to provoke calls to contact centers and visits to salons, the cost of a showdown costs them much more than 30 rubles.That is why operators are trying to exclude any kind of disassembly due to the fault of billings, “sharpened” for collecting at least some money from an unlucky client. The instructions are contradictory, but billings are smart and have been successfully adapted in recent years. So now I don't know. Unexpected write-offs are unlikely. Even on "gift" sim cards, the very existence of which you may not even suspect. The probability of your SIM card unexpectedly “popping up” in the hands of a terrorist is very small, and the contract termination time is 20 minutes. On the other hand, anything can happen, and if you decide to terminate the contract, then you need to take a copy of your application with a stamp (there will be a date) did you go in vain? You never know, it can be useful in the subsequent clarification of "all sorts of different" circumstances. Wasting 20 minutes or 20 years is up to you (almost kidding, of course).

That was great (see below). Personally, I have not encountered this, but I was alerted by the same IMEI in incoming SMS messages. And I could have guessed right away, I sprinkle ashes on my head.

“For about half a year, roughly speaking, I was fed up with messages that come from different numbers (about changing the SIM card - I send the last 2 numbers in the application). I turned to MTS (my operator) with a request to fix it somehow, but they told me that apparently my number was scored in some organization that was doing something there and could not help me.

“Is it possible to fix this somehow - despite my constant blocking of numbers, other numbers appear. These messages come at different times, incl. night.

I don't understand how to deal with this. Maybe you know about such moments and know what and how to do - I will be grateful for your help, thank you.

I talked to a good specialist. I can’t quote with a screenshot due to the presence of profanity in the answer. According to him, it seems that the case is typical and there was no such “organization doing something there”, there were “playful little hands” of the user (and we all sin with this) and a misunderstanding of the consequences of their actions. I will rewrite the essence of the recommendation:

". I put a notification about changing the SIM card on my phone, and I sold the device itself. That's the whole secret. Let him call the last number from which the SMS came, say the password from the phone and ask him to uncheck the box in the “security” section - “notify about changing the SIM card”.

The author later wrote that the device was not sold, strange. But at least it’s clear in which direction to “dig”. I hope the recommendation helps. And it will help not only the author of the letter. They also suggested a link on the forum, the cherished password with a high degree of probability may turn out to be “0000”.

Also an interesting question: will the “factory reset” also reset this password if it was set by the previous owner of the device? Do not know. I'm a little paranoid, but the wording "factory reset" does not mean "destruction of all user data without the possibility of recovering it", legally everything is clean. If there was something valuable in the apparatus, then bury it and cremate it. It is possible without a funeral service, but certainly cremate, and not sell. Joking aside, but personally I don’t know how data is erased in smartphones and whether all data is really erased. The phone itself

30 GB on a flash drive or internal memory "erases" in some tens of seconds, and this is suspiciously fast for the complete destruction of data. And system partitions are unlikely to be erased, but where are the phones / passwords written to? Again, “I don’t know”, but it’s better to cremate the apparatus.

About changing tariffs/options, etc.

What happened is technically understandable, but not at all obvious to a normal person. Yes, we are all slightly telecom crazy, but since we are here, we will figure it out.

“Greetings, Sergey. You may be interested in the situation that happened to me when using the "Foreign" option. I didn’t use it much, 4 days, but for one of the days used, MTS charged a double fee.

A request to deal with the situation was politely refused, saying that there could be no mistake.

I have an assumption that while relaxing on the island of Corfu, in theory, an operator from Albania could have picked up, because. the country is not so far away, but the operator's customer focus is surprising. It turns out polite scam.

If the situation is of interest, then the correspondence with the operator is below. I hope as few people as possible will step on the same rake as me.

Hello, Roman Vadimovich.

The fact is that during the period you specified, your phone number was registered in the network of the operator of another country, and therefore there was a write-off for the "Zabugorishche Home Package" option.

All connections are automatically logged by certified equipment. Information about the connections included in the invoice is a direct confirmation of the fact of this action. Manual intervention in the formation of the account is excluded. Thus, all connections reflected in the details are in any case recognized as completed and are subject to payment.

The correctness of debiting your number was confirmed by the automatic settlement system, therefore, unfortunately, the money cannot be returned. Thank you for being with us!”.

Please for answering, and a special "please" for being with you. A smart person explained to me that the “Zabugorishche” option is connected and money is withdrawn once a day only when the connection is made “over the hill”. If there was a move on that day to another country within the scope of this particular type of tariff option, then there will be no re-withdrawal of money. But if the phone on the beach accidentally registered in the network of another country from another category of the “Foreigners” option, then the money will be written off again. After all, this is a different country and a completely different package of Zabugorishcha, and it will be written off from the balance sheet.

The good news is that when "returning" to the host country (the phone returned to the network), this "Zabugorishche" no longer debits money from the balance within a day. Otherwise, a “continuous cycle” of write-offs of the form country-country could turn out.

Summary

That's all for now. There are many more of your letters that need to be dealt with carefully, and I am gradually dealing with them, do not hesitate. Screenshots are warmly welcome. See you, friends! Even if there are a lot of letters and I don’t answer all at once, then this is not a stupid inattention, believe me. They usually complain to me about very difficult cases.

Operators, read mail and news

Traditional selection of your letters with comments and clarifications. As well as news on tariffs and services, of which the most interesting and unusual is the transformation of extra minutes into the necessary gigabytes of traffic. And the most alarming is another modification of the popular Super MTS tariff

Our "mail" heading has taken root. Largely due to the fact that this is not just a place to complain and complain about the plight of the subscriber. A lot of useful constructive, and sometimes you learn something that could not even come to mind. And, of course, your comments, each analysis of mail turns into a kind of collective creativity.

No phone anywhere

Recently, we discussed tariffs without a monthly fee, review here. Indeed, I missed one of the important aspects, and they corrected me, quote:

“There is another option for using tariffs without a subscriber, which is not described in the text. Quite a lot of people live temporarily abroad, continuing to keep some kind of accounts in Russian banks. Often, this is simply necessary - for some time now, many payment systems have not accepted payments from foreign cards (for example, try to pay for the phone, in my case, also the rent, etc.). Payments do not go through Russian processing centers - you have to keep at least some positive balance on your accounts. This is where SIM cards with Russian numbers are needed - to work with banks. Since 2011, I have been keeping Beeline on a per-second tariff exclusively for these purposes.

And once again they reminded that it is undesirable to use the main phone number for financial transactions. This is where a number without a monthly fee comes in handy: it doesn’t ask for porridge and you can’t “shine” it anywhere.

Operators, read mail and news

I also noticed that services increasingly began to require a phone number. It is clear with instant messengers, and we have already discussed this, but there are also surprises. For example, my ISP suddenly asked for a phone number when trying to top up my account. And then the payment system on its page also claimed the number. It would seem, why do they need my phone? So many years have been fine without it. In general, the point is that with every sneeze they will require a number. And if you remember about the recent tightening of registration rules when buying / receiving a SIM card, it becomes a little uncomfortable. They explain it by the fight against terrorism, but a terrorist will always get a "left" SIM card for himself.

About Super MTS

Operators, read mail and news

News on the topic of tariffs without a monthly fee, a new version of the tariff is coming out on November 13, there are no details yet. Old in the archive, the conditions for previously connected do not change. The news is important because there are millions on this tariff and this is the undisputed leader among tariffs without an MTS monthly fee. I don’t remember what the Super MTS tuning was, the previous ones were not for the better. Will they reduce the number of free minutes on the network again? It is unlikely that less than 20 minutes will somehow look unaesthetic. You can do the opposite: add free minutes, but make the first minute of each conversation paid, as was done in MegaFon, including on archival tariffs. Okay, let's not speculate and wait for the specifics. However, it will not be harmful to have time to take and activate a SIM card before November 13, if you planned to connect. If the new tariff turns out to be better for you, then you can switch to the new version in a month, no worries.

Tele2, turning minutes into gigabytes

Tele2 continues to fulfill its promises to surprise with non-standard solutions, and this time they really surprised us, you can’t argue. You can read the description here.

Operators, read mail and news

Now extra or not very necessary minutes can be converted into Internet traffic. Valid on the tariffs of the My Tele2 line. First, gigabytes received in exchange for minutes are spent, then transferred from the previous month, then the Internet package included in your tariff. The volume of Internet traffic received in exchange for minutes is not transferred to the next billing period, but this is hardly critical: the "bartered" traffic is spent first.

When you change the tariff plan, unused Internet traffic also burns out.

You can use the service throughout Russia, with the exception of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

Operators, read mail and news

See the exchange rate in the screenshot above, you can also change minutes to gigabytes through the My Tele2 application. The number of exchanges within a month is not limited. What to say? A very practical service. It is positioned as an urgent duty officer for exchanging excess for what you need, pay yourself a subscriber at a package rate and do not worry about missing minutes. The very concept of a “bag” is partially destroyed: the idea is that the client receives a little (or a lot) of all the products in the “basket”, but basically uses only the part he needs. The rest is in the trash. And here already the tariffs are starting to look quite different. For example, the budget "My conversation" can now give out for its 199 rubles. already 4 GB of traffic per month, if you don't need 200 minutes. Or, for example, up to 17 GB instead of 12 GB on My Online, which for Moscow is 400 rubles. not bad.

No, the ideal (full constructor) is still far away, and I have already seen indignant comments on the forums: “On the contrary, I don’t have enough minutes with extra gigabytes! What kind of discrimination is this?!” There is no perfection in the world, alas. Do not forget about the "Set up a tariff for yourself" function, where you can add minutes and traffic, but there the result is noticeably more expensive than the correct choice of tariff. The main thing is that the current “exchanger” has a completely different ideology: not to buy traffic that is not enough, but to exchange extra minutes for traffic without any additional payments.

Beeline, about 64 Kbps

It's interesting how the themes intertwine. Recently, a person complained to me on Twitter that he could not start switching to a low speed of 64 Kbps after the main traffic packet was used up.

Operators, read mail and news

Beeline promised to look into the situation, we'll see. It may be a separate failure, or it may turn out to be a warning sign that some work is being done in this direction. I would like to read the comments of those who have recently encountered this phenomenon (if there are any among readers). Let me remind you: almost everyone has already abandoned the scheme of switching to free 64 Kbps after the package is exhausted, it is more profitable for operators to sell additional packages of full-fledged traffic. It is especially pleasant to do this in automatic mode. Beeline provided a hybrid compromise: paid auto-renewal is enabled by default, but you can refuse it, and then 64 Kbps should turn on without any additional payments. Personally, I would not be surprised if such an opportunity is turned off in Beeline, now it has already become a rarity in our market.

"Nature doesn't have bad weather"

But there is Yandex.Weather. Weather advice from Yandex from yesterday suddenly began to come in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius (I checked the settings). Accidentally poked and slightly stunned. The 40 degree tip is OK, doable. But still, you need to check, what if some wrong advice?

Operators, read mail and news

In comparison with the application, did you add functions and information content? Not at all, in this sense nothing has changed. They just stuffed hefty ad blocks every 2 lines of the weather forecast and removed the precipitation map button to the very bottom of the long ribbon. Now you will erase your finger while scrolling to the map all this Yandex.Direct advertising, in the screenshots I showed you less than half of this advertising feed.

Operators, read mail and news

Like this in the application. One click and maybe move the screen down or to the side a little. Everything about everything takes 15-20 seconds. And the site is in trouble, it takes at least 4 times more time and probably the same (if not more) times more traffic. What's next? It is not difficult to guess, they will start playing advertising videos through each line. It was such a waste of a good product! Actually, I had two reasons to write about it:

  • Recommend a convenient and bug-free alternative with a weather + clock widget on the desktop
  • If you use and intend to continue using the Yandex.Weather application, then refrain from downloading updates. I feel that soon the application may become unwell.

Or is it me that Google started to make happy with Russian letters? To be honest, I'm too lazy to figure it out.

About SIM cards

“I am very interested in the issue of "unnecessary" SIM cards, please tell us whether it is necessary to terminate the contract for old or unnecessary, unused SIM cards. When I came to the salon to terminate the contract, the manager said "just don't use it for 90 days and the SIM card is no longer yours." It seems to be true, but the doubt remains. And do I need to take a copy of the application for termination / closure of the contract?”.

Good question. A couple of years ago, I strongly recommended that you terminate all contracts and, by the way, check whether “left” contracts have been concluded for your passport data. In this particular case (see the letter above), there is no categorical answer. A SIM card without paid actions and at a public rate, in theory, should quietly die a natural death, and the number will pass to another owner without any financial consequences for the previous owner. For a long time I have not heard about auto-connection of something paid on inactive SIM cards with a zero balance. This is not interesting for the operators themselves either: for 30-50 rubles. “duty” to provoke calls to contact centers and visits to salons, the cost of a showdown costs them much more than 30 rubles.That is why operators are trying to exclude any kind of disassembly due to the fault of billings, “sharpened” for collecting at least some money from an unlucky client. The instructions are contradictory, but billings are smart and have been successfully adapted in recent years. So now I don't know. Unexpected write-offs are unlikely. Even on "gift" sim cards, the very existence of which you may not even suspect. The probability of your SIM card unexpectedly “popping up” in the hands of a terrorist is very small, and the contract termination time is 20 minutes. On the other hand, anything can happen, and if you decide to terminate the contract, then you need to take a copy of your application with a stamp (there will be a date) did you go in vain? You never know, it can be useful in the subsequent clarification of "all sorts of different" circumstances. Wasting 20 minutes or 20 years is up to you (almost kidding, of course).

That was great (see below). Personally, I have not encountered this, but I was alerted by the same IMEI in incoming SMS messages. And I could have guessed right away, I sprinkle ashes on my head.

“For about half a year, roughly speaking, I was fed up with messages that come from different numbers (about changing the SIM card - I send the last 2 numbers in the application). I turned to MTS (my operator) with a request to fix it somehow, but they told me that apparently my number was scored in some organization that was doing something there and could not help me.

“Is it possible to fix this somehow - despite my constant blocking of numbers, other numbers appear. These messages come at different times, incl. night.

I don't understand how to deal with this. Maybe you know about such moments and know what and how to do - I will be grateful for your help, thank you.

I talked to a good specialist. I can’t quote with a screenshot due to the presence of profanity in the answer. According to him, it seems that the case is typical and there was no such “organization doing something there”, there were “playful little hands” of the user (and we all sin with this) and a misunderstanding of the consequences of their actions. I will rewrite the essence of the recommendation:

". I put a notification about changing the SIM card on my phone, and I sold the device itself. That's the whole secret. Let him call the last number from which the SMS came, say the password from the phone and ask him to uncheck the box in the “security” section - “notify about changing the SIM card”.

The author later wrote that the device was not sold, strange. But at least it’s clear in which direction to “dig”. I hope the recommendation helps. And it will help not only the author of the letter. They also suggested a link on the forum, the cherished password with a high degree of probability may turn out to be “0000”.

Also an interesting question: will the "reset to factory settings" also reset this password if it was set by the previous owner of the device? Do not know. I'm a little paranoid, but the wording "factory reset" does not mean "destruction of all user data without the possibility of recovering it", legally everything is clean. If there was something valuable in the apparatus, then bury it and cremate it. It is possible without a funeral service, but certainly cremate, and not sell. Joking aside, but personally I don’t know how data is erased in smartphones and whether all data is really erased. The phone itself

30 GB on a flash drive or internal memory "erases" in some tens of seconds, and this is suspiciously fast for the complete destruction of data. And system partitions are unlikely to be erased, but where are the phones / passwords written to? Again, “I don’t know”, but it’s better to cremate the apparatus.

About changing tariffs/options, etc.

What happened is technically understandable, but not at all obvious to a normal person. Yes, we are all slightly telecom crazy, but since we are here, we will figure it out.

“Greetings, Sergey. You may be interested in the situation that happened to me when using the "Foreign" option. I didn’t use it much, 4 days, but for one of the days used, MTS charged a double fee.

A request to deal with the situation was politely refused, saying that there could be no mistake.

I have an assumption that while relaxing on the island of Corfu, in theory, an operator from Albania could have picked up, because. the country is not so far away, but the operator's customer focus is surprising. It turns out polite scam.

If the situation is of interest, then the correspondence with the operator is below. I hope as few people as possible will step on the same rake as me.

Hello, Roman Vadimovich.

The fact is that during the period you specified, your phone number was registered in the network of the operator of another country, and therefore there was a write-off for the "Zabugorishche Home Package" option.

All connections are automatically logged by certified equipment. Information about the connections included in the invoice is a direct confirmation of the fact of this action. Manual intervention in the formation of the account is excluded. Thus, all connections reflected in the details are in any case recognized as completed and are subject to payment.

The correctness of debiting your number was confirmed by the automatic settlement system, therefore, unfortunately, the money cannot be returned. Thank you for being with us!”.

Please for answering, and a special "please" for being with you. A smart person explained to me that the “Zabugorishche” option is connected and money is withdrawn once a day only when the connection is made “over the hill”. If there was a move on that day to another country within the scope of this particular type of tariff option, then there will be no re-withdrawal of money. But if the phone on the beach accidentally registered in the network of another country from another category of the “Foreigners” option, then the money will be written off again. After all, this is a different country and a completely different package of Zabugorishcha, and it will be written off from the balance sheet.

The good news is that when "returning" to the host country (the phone returned to the network), this "Zabugorishche" no longer debits money from the balance within a day. Otherwise, a “continuous cycle” of write-offs of the form country-country could turn out.

Summary

That's all for now. There are many more of your letters that need to be dealt with carefully, and I am gradually dealing with them, do not hesitate. Screenshots are warmly welcome. See you, friends! Even if there are a lot of letters and I don’t answer all at once, then this is not a stupid inattention, believe me. They usually complain to me about very difficult cases.

Operators, read mail and news

Traditional selection of your letters with comments and clarifications. As well as news on tariffs and services, of which the most interesting and unusual is the transformation of extra minutes into the necessary gigabytes of traffic. And the most alarming is another modification of the popular Super MTS tariff

Our "mail" heading has taken root. Largely due to the fact that this is not just a place to complain and complain about the plight of the subscriber. A lot of useful constructive, and sometimes you learn something that could not even come to mind. And, of course, your comments, each analysis of mail turns into a kind of collective creativity.

No phone anywhere

Recently, we discussed tariffs without a monthly fee, review here. Indeed, I missed one of the important aspects, and they corrected me, quote:

“There is another option for using tariffs without a subscriber, which is not described in the text. Quite a lot of people live temporarily abroad, continuing to keep some kind of accounts in Russian banks. Often, this is simply necessary - for some time now, many payment systems have not accepted payments from foreign cards (for example, try to pay for the phone, in my case, also the rent, etc.). Payments do not go through Russian processing centers - you have to keep at least some positive balance on your accounts. This is where SIM cards with Russian numbers are needed - to work with banks. Since 2011, I have been keeping Beeline on a per-second tariff exclusively for these purposes.

And once again they reminded that it is undesirable to use the main phone number for financial transactions. This is where a number without a monthly fee comes in handy: it doesn’t ask for porridge and you can’t “shine” it anywhere.

Operators, read mail and news

I also noticed that services increasingly began to require a phone number. It is clear with instant messengers, and we have already discussed this, but there are also surprises. For example, my ISP suddenly asked for a phone number when trying to top up my account. And then the payment system on its page also claimed the number. It would seem, why do they need my phone? So many years have been fine without it. In general, the point is that with every sneeze they will require a number. And if you remember about the recent tightening of registration rules when buying / receiving a SIM card, it becomes a little uncomfortable. They explain it by the fight against terrorism, but a terrorist will always get a "left" SIM card for himself.

About Super MTS

Operators, read mail and news

News on the topic of tariffs without a monthly fee, a new version of the tariff is coming out on November 13, there are no details yet. Old in the archive, the conditions for previously connected do not change. The news is important because there are millions on this tariff and this is the undisputed leader among tariffs without an MTS monthly fee. I don’t remember what the Super MTS tuning was, the previous ones were not for the better. Will they reduce the number of free minutes on the network again? It is unlikely that less than 20 minutes will somehow look unaesthetic. You can do the opposite: add free minutes, but make the first minute of each conversation paid, as was done in MegaFon, including on archival tariffs. Okay, let's not speculate and wait for the specifics. However, it will not be harmful to have time to take and activate a SIM card before November 13, if you planned to connect. If the new tariff turns out to be better for you, then you can switch to the new version in a month, no worries.

Tele2, turning minutes into gigabytes

Tele2 continues to fulfill its promises to surprise with non-standard solutions, and this time they really surprised us, you can’t argue. You can read the description here.

Operators, read mail and news

Now extra or not very necessary minutes can be converted into Internet traffic. Valid on the tariffs of the My Tele2 line. First, gigabytes received in exchange for minutes are spent, then transferred from the previous month, then the Internet package included in your tariff. The volume of Internet traffic received in exchange for minutes is not transferred to the next billing period, but this is hardly critical: the "bartered" traffic is spent first.

When you change the tariff plan, unused Internet traffic also burns out.

You can use the service throughout Russia, with the exception of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

Operators, read mail and news

See the exchange rate in the screenshot above, you can also change minutes to gigabytes through the My Tele2 application. The number of exchanges within a month is not limited. What to say? A very practical service. It is positioned as an urgent duty officer for exchanging excess for what you need, pay yourself a subscriber at a package rate and do not worry about missing minutes. The very concept of a “bag” is partially destroyed: the idea is that the client receives a little (or a lot) of all the products in the “basket”, but basically uses only the part he needs. The rest is in the trash. And here already the tariffs are starting to look quite different. For example, the budget "My conversation" can now give out for its 199 rubles. already 4 GB of traffic per month, if you don't need 200 minutes. Or, for example, up to 17 GB instead of 12 GB on My Online, which for Moscow is 400 rubles. not bad.

No, the ideal (full constructor) is still far away, and I have already seen indignant comments on the forums: “On the contrary, I don’t have enough minutes with extra gigabytes! What kind of discrimination is this?!” There is no perfection in the world, alas. Do not forget about the "Set up a tariff for yourself" function, where you can add minutes and traffic, but there the result is noticeably more expensive than the correct choice of tariff. The main thing is that the current “exchanger” has a completely different ideology: not to buy traffic that is not enough, but to exchange extra minutes for traffic without any additional payments.

Beeline, about 64 Kbps

It's interesting how the themes intertwine. Recently, a person complained to me on Twitter that he could not start switching to a low speed of 64 Kbps after the main traffic packet was used up.

Operators, read mail and news

Beeline promised to look into the situation, we'll see. It may be a separate failure, or it may turn out to be a warning sign that some work is being done in this direction. I would like to read the comments of those who have recently encountered this phenomenon (if there are any among readers). Let me remind you: almost everyone has already abandoned the scheme of switching to free 64 Kbps after the package is exhausted, it is more profitable for operators to sell additional packages of full-fledged traffic. It is especially pleasant to do this in automatic mode. Beeline provided a hybrid compromise: paid auto-renewal is enabled by default, but you can refuse it, and then 64 Kbps should turn on without any additional payments. Personally, I would not be surprised if such an opportunity is turned off in Beeline, now it has already become a rarity in our market.

"Nature has no bad weather"

But there is Yandex.Weather. Weather advice from Yandex from yesterday suddenly began to come in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius (I checked the settings). Accidentally poked and slightly stunned. The 40 degree tip is OK, doable. But still, you need to check, what if some wrong advice?

Operators, read mail and news

In comparison with the application, did you add functions and information content? Not at all, in this sense nothing has changed. They just stuffed hefty ad blocks every 2 lines of the weather forecast and removed the precipitation map button to the very bottom of the long ribbon. Now you will erase your finger while scrolling to the map all this Yandex.Direct advertising, in the screenshots I showed you less than half of this advertising feed.

Operators, read mail and news

Like this in the application. One click and maybe move the screen down or to the side a little. Everything about everything takes 15-20 seconds. But the site is in trouble, it takes at least 4 times more time and probably the same (if not more) times more traffic. What's next? It is not difficult to guess, they will start playing advertising videos through each line. It was such a waste of a good product! Actually, I had two reasons to write about it:

  • Recommend a convenient and bug-free alternative with a weather + clock widget on the desktop
  • If you use and intend to continue using the Yandex.Weather application, then refrain from downloading updates. I feel that soon the application may become unwell.

Or is it me that Google started to make happy with Russian letters? To be honest, I'm too lazy to figure it out.

About SIM cards

“I am very interested in the issue of "unnecessary" SIM cards, please tell us whether it is necessary to terminate the contract for old or unnecessary, unused SIM cards. When I came to the salon to terminate the contract, the manager said "just don't use it for 90 days and the SIM card is no longer yours." It seems to be true, but the doubt remains. And do I need to take a copy of the application for termination / closure of the contract?”.

Good question. A couple of years ago, I strongly recommended that you terminate all contracts and, by the way, check whether “left” contracts have been concluded for your passport data. In this particular case (see the letter above), there is no categorical answer. A SIM card without paid actions and at a public rate, in theory, should quietly die a natural death, and the number will pass to another owner without any financial consequences for the previous owner. For a long time I have not heard about auto-connection of something paid on inactive SIM cards with a zero balance. This is not interesting for the operators themselves either: for 30-50 rubles. “duty” to provoke calls to contact centers and visits to salons, the cost of a showdown costs them much more than 30 rubles.That is why operators are trying to exclude any kind of disassembly due to the fault of billings, “sharpened” for collecting at least some money from an unlucky client. The instructions are contradictory, but billings are smart and have been successfully adapted in recent years. So now I don't know. Unexpected write-offs are unlikely. Even on "gift" sim cards, the very existence of which you may not even suspect. The probability of your SIM card unexpectedly “popping up” in the hands of a terrorist is very small, and the contract termination time is 20 minutes. On the other hand, anything can happen, and if you decide to terminate the contract, then you need to take a copy of your application with a stamp (there will be a date) did you go in vain? You never know, it can be useful in the subsequent clarification of "all sorts of different" circumstances. Wasting 20 minutes or 20 years is up to you (almost kidding, of course).

That was great (see below). Personally, I have not encountered this, but I was alerted by the same IMEI in incoming SMS messages. And I could have guessed right away, I sprinkle ashes on my head.

“For about half a year, roughly speaking, I was fed up with messages that come from different numbers (about changing the SIM card - I send the last 2 numbers in the application). I turned to MTS (my operator) with a request to fix it somehow, but they told me that apparently my number was scored in some organization that was doing something there and could not help me.

“Is it possible to fix this somehow - despite my constant blocking of numbers, other numbers appear. These messages come at different times, incl. night.

I don't understand how to deal with this. Maybe you know about such moments and know what and how to do - I will be grateful for your help, thank you.

I talked to a good specialist. I can’t quote with a screenshot due to the presence of profanity in the answer. According to him, it seems that the case is typical and there was no such “organization doing something there”, there were “playful little hands” of the user (and we all sin with this) and a misunderstanding of the consequences of their actions. I will rewrite the essence of the recommendation:

". I put a notification about changing the SIM card on my phone, and I sold the device itself. That's the whole secret. Let him call the last number from which the SMS came, say the password from the phone and ask him to uncheck the box in the “security” section - “notify about changing the SIM card”.

The author later wrote that the device was not sold, strange. But at least it’s clear in which direction to “dig”. I hope the recommendation helps. And it will help not only the author of the letter. They also suggested a link on the forum, the cherished password with a high degree of probability may turn out to be “0000”.

Also an interesting question: will the "reset to factory settings" also reset this password if it was set by the previous owner of the device? Do not know. I'm a little paranoid, but the wording "factory reset" does not mean "destruction of all user data without the possibility of recovering it", legally everything is clean. If there was something valuable in the apparatus, then bury it and cremate it. It is possible without a funeral service, but certainly cremate, and not sell. Joking aside, but personally I don’t know how data is erased in smartphones and whether all data is really erased. The phone itself

30 GB on a flash drive or internal memory "erases" in some tens of seconds, and this is suspiciously fast for the complete destruction of data. And system partitions are unlikely to be erased, but where are the phones / passwords written to? Again, “I don’t know”, but it’s better to cremate the apparatus.

About changing tariffs/options, etc.

What happened is technically understandable, but not at all obvious to a normal person. Yes, we are all slightly telecom crazy, but since we are here, we will figure it out.

“Greetings, Sergey. You may be interested in the situation that happened to me when using the "Foreign" option. I didn’t use it much, 4 days, but for one of the days used, MTS charged a double fee.

A request to deal with the situation was politely refused, saying that there could be no mistake.

I have an assumption that while relaxing on the island of Corfu, in theory, an operator from Albania could have picked up, because. the country is not so far away, but the operator's customer focus is surprising. It turns out polite scam.

If the situation is of interest, then the correspondence with the operator is below. I hope as few people as possible will step on the same rake as me.

Hello, Roman Vadimovich.

The fact is that during the period you specified, your phone number was registered in the network of the operator of another country, and therefore there was a write-off for the "Zabugorishche Home Package" option.

All connections are automatically logged by certified equipment. Information about the connections included in the invoice is a direct confirmation of the fact of this action. Manual intervention in the formation of the account is excluded. Thus, all connections reflected in the details are in any case recognized as completed and are subject to payment.

The correctness of debiting your number was confirmed by the automatic settlement system, therefore, unfortunately, the money cannot be returned. Thank you for being with us!”.

Please for answering, and a special "please" for being with you. A smart person explained to me that the “Zabugorishche” option is connected and money is withdrawn once a day only when the connection is made “over the hill”. If there was a move on that day to another country within the scope of this particular type of tariff option, then there will be no re-withdrawal of money. But if the phone on the beach accidentally registered in the network of another country from another category of the “Foreigners” option, then the money will be written off again. After all, this is a different country and a completely different package of Zabugorishcha, and it will be written off from the balance sheet.

The good news is that when "returning" to the host country (the phone returned to the network), this "Zabugorishche" no longer debits money from the balance within a day. Otherwise, a “continuous cycle” of write-offs of the form country-country could turn out.

Summary

That's all for now. There are many more of your letters that need to be dealt with carefully, and I am gradually dealing with them, do not hesitate. Screenshots are warmly welcome. See you, friends! Even if there are a lot of letters and I don’t answer all at once, then this is not a stupid inattention, believe me. They usually complain to me about very difficult cases.

Operators, read mail and news

Traditional selection of your letters with comments and clarifications. As well as news on tariffs and services, of which the most interesting and unusual is the transformation of extra minutes into the necessary gigabytes of traffic. And the most alarming is another modification of the popular Super MTS tariff

Our "mail" heading has taken root. Largely due to the fact that this is not just a place to complain and complain about the plight of the subscriber. A lot of useful constructive, and sometimes you learn something that could not even come to mind. And, of course, your comments, each analysis of mail turns into a kind of collective creativity.

No phone anywhere

Recently, we discussed tariffs without a monthly fee, review here. Indeed, I missed one of the important aspects, and they corrected me, quote:

“There is another option for using tariffs without a subscriber, which is not described in the text. Quite a lot of people live temporarily abroad, continuing to keep some kind of accounts in Russian banks. Often, this is simply necessary - for some time now, many payment systems have not accepted payments from foreign cards (for example, try to pay for the phone, in my case, also the rent, etc.). Payments do not go through Russian processing centers - you have to keep at least some positive balance on your accounts. This is where SIM cards with Russian numbers are needed - to work with banks. Since 2011, I have been keeping Beeline on a per-second tariff exclusively for these purposes.

And once again they reminded that it is undesirable to use the main phone number for financial transactions. This is where a number without a monthly fee comes in handy: it doesn’t ask for porridge and you can’t “shine” it anywhere.

I also noticed that services increasingly began to require a phone number. It is clear with instant messengers, and we have already discussed this, but there are also surprises. For example, my ISP suddenly asked for a phone number when trying to top up my account. And then the payment system on its page also claimed the number. It would seem, why do they need my phone? So many years have been fine without it. In general, the point is that with every sneeze they will require a number. And if you remember about the recent tightening of registration rules when buying / receiving a SIM card, it becomes a little uncomfortable. They explain it by the fight against terrorism, but a terrorist will always get a "left" SIM card for himself.

About Super MTS

News on the topic of tariffs without a monthly fee, a new version of the tariff is coming out on November 13, there are no details yet. Old in the archive, the conditions for previously connected do not change. The news is important because there are millions on this tariff and this is the undisputed leader among tariffs without an MTS monthly fee. I don’t remember what the Super MTS tuning was, the previous ones were not for the better. Will they reduce the number of free minutes on the network again? It is unlikely that less than 20 minutes will somehow look unaesthetic. You can do the opposite: add free minutes, but make the first minute of each conversation paid, as was done in MegaFon, including on archival tariffs. Okay, let's not speculate and wait for the specifics. However, it will not be harmful to have time to take and activate a SIM card before November 13, if you planned to connect. If the new tariff turns out to be better for you, then you can switch to the new version in a month, no worries.

Tele2, turning minutes into gigabytes

Tele2 continues to fulfill its promises to surprise with non-standard solutions, and this time they really surprised us, you can’t argue. You can read the description here.

Now extra or not very necessary minutes can be converted into Internet traffic. Valid on the tariffs of the My Tele2 line. First, gigabytes received in exchange for minutes are spent, then transferred from the previous month, then the Internet package included in your tariff. The volume of Internet traffic received in exchange for minutes is not transferred to the next billing period, but this is hardly critical: the "bartered" traffic is spent first.

When you change the tariff plan, unused Internet traffic also burns out.

You can use the service throughout Russia, with the exception of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

See the exchange rate in the screenshot above, you can also change minutes to gigabytes through the My Tele2 application. The number of exchanges within a month is not limited. What to say? A very practical service. It is positioned as an urgent duty officer for exchanging excess for what you need, pay yourself a subscriber at a package rate and do not worry about missing minutes. The very concept of a “bag” is partially destroyed: the idea is that the client receives a little (or a lot) of all the products in the “basket”, but basically uses only the part he needs. The rest is in the trash. And here already the tariffs begin to look quite different. For example, the budget "My conversation" can now give out for its 199 rubles. already 4 GB of traffic per month, if you don't need 200 minutes. Or, for example, up to 17 GB instead of 12 GB on My Online, which for Moscow is 400 rubles. not bad.

No, the ideal (full constructor) is still far away, and I have already seen indignant comments on the forums: “On the contrary, I don’t have enough minutes with extra gigabytes! What kind of discrimination is this?!” There is no perfection in the world, alas. Do not forget about the "Set up a tariff for yourself" function, where you can add minutes and traffic, but there the result is noticeably more expensive than the correct choice of tariff. The main thing is that the current “exchanger” has a completely different ideology: not to buy traffic that is not enough, but to exchange extra minutes for traffic without any additional payments.

Beeline, about 64 Kbps

It's interesting how the themes intertwine. Recently, a person complained to me on Twitter that he could not start switching to a low speed of 64 Kbps after the main traffic packet was used up.

Beeline promised to look into the situation, we'll see. It may be a separate failure, or it may turn out to be a warning sign that some work is being done in this direction. I would like to read the comments of those who have recently encountered this phenomenon (if there are any among readers). Let me remind you: almost everyone has already abandoned the scheme of switching to free 64 Kbps after the package is exhausted, it is more profitable for operators to sell additional packages of full-fledged traffic. It is especially pleasant to do this in automatic mode. Beeline provided a hybrid compromise: paid auto-renewal is enabled by default, but you can refuse it, and then 64 Kbps should turn on without any additional payments. Personally, I would not be surprised if such an opportunity is turned off in Beeline, now it has already become a rarity in our market.

"Nature doesn't have bad weather"

But there is Yandex.Weather. Weather advice from Yandex from yesterday suddenly began to come in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius (I checked the settings). Accidentally poked and slightly stunned. The 40 degree tip is OK, doable. But still, you need to check, what if some wrong advice?

In comparison with the application, did you add functions and information content? Well, nothing has changed in that sense. They just stuffed hefty ad blocks every 2 lines of the weather forecast and removed the precipitation map button to the very bottom of the long ribbon. Now you will erase your finger while scrolling to the map all this Yandex.Direct advertising, in the screenshots I showed you less than half of this advertising feed.

In comparison with the application added functions and informativeness? Not at all, in this sense nothing changed. They just stuffed hefty ad blocks every 2 lines of the weather forecast and removed the precipitation map button to the very bottom of the long ribbon. Now you will erase your finger while scrolling to the map all this Yandex.Direct advertising, in the screenshots I showed you less than half of this advertising feed.

Like this in the application. One click and maybe move the screen down or to the side a little. Everything about everything takes 15-20 seconds. And the site is in trouble, it takes at least 4 times more time and probably the same (if not more) times more traffic. What's next? It is not difficult to guess, they will start playing advertising videos through each line. It was such a waste of a good product! Actually, I had two reasons to write about it:

  • Recommend a convenient and bug-free alternative with a weather + clock widget on the desktop
  • If you use and intend to continue using the Yandex.Weather application, then refrain from downloading updates. I feel that soon the application may become unwell.

Or is it me Google began to make happy with Russian letters? To be honest, I'm too lazy to figure it out.

About SIM-cards

“I am very interested in the issue of "unnecessary" SIM cards, please tell us whether it is necessary to terminate the contract for old or unnecessary, unused SIM cards. When I came to the salon to terminate the contract, the manager said "just don't use it for 90 days and the SIM card is no longer yours." I believe, but doubt remains. And do I need to take a copy of the application for termination / closure of the contract?”.

Good question. A couple of years ago, I strongly recommended that you terminate all contracts and, by the way, check whether “left” contracts have been concluded for your passport data. In this particular case (see the letter above), there is no categorical answer. A SIM card without paid actions and at a public rate, in theory, should quietly die a natural death, and the number will pass to another owner without any financial consequences for the previous owner. For a long time I have not heard about auto-connection of something paid on inactive SIM cards with a zero balance. This is not interesting for the operators themselves either: for 30-50 rubles. “duty” to provoke calls to contact centers and visits to salons, the cost of a showdown costs them much more than 30 rubles. That is why operators are trying to exclude any kind of disassembly due to the fault of billings, “sharpened” for collecting at least some money from an unlucky client. The instructions are contradictory, but billings are smart and have been successfully adapted in recent years. So now I don't know. Unexpected write-offs are unlikely. Even on "gift" sim cards, the very existence of which you may not even suspect. The probability of your SIM card unexpectedly “popping up” in the hands of a terrorist is very small, and the contract termination time is 20 minutes. On the other hand, anything can happen, and if you decide to terminate the contract, then you need to take a copy of your application with a stamp (there will be a date) did you go in vain? You never know, it can be useful in the subsequent clarification of "all sorts of different" circumstances. Wasting 20 minutes or 20 years is up to you (almost kidding, of course).

That was great (see below). Personally, I have not encountered this, but I was alerted by the same IMEI in incoming SMS messages. And I could have guessed right away, I sprinkle ashes on my head.

“For about half a year, roughly speaking, I was fed up with messages that come from different numbers (about changing the SIM card - I send the last 2 numbers in the application). I turned to MTS (my operator) with a request to fix it somehow, but they told me that apparently my number was scored in some organization that was doing something there and could not help me.

“Is it possible to fix this somehow - despite my constant blocking of numbers, other numbers appear. These messages come at different times, incl. night.

I don't understand how to deal with this. Maybe you know about such moments and know what and how to do - I will be grateful for your help, thank you.

I talked to a good specialist. I can’t quote with a screenshot due to the presence of profanity in the answer. According to him, it seems that the case is typical and there was no such “organization doing something there”, there were “playful little hands” of the user (and we all sin with this) and a misunderstanding of the consequences of their actions. I will rewrite the essence of the recommendation:

". I put a notification about changing the SIM card on my phone, and I sold the device itself. That's the whole secret. Let him call the last number from which the SMS came, say the password from the phone and ask him to uncheck the box in the “security” section - “notify about changing the SIM card”.

The author later wrote that the device was not sold, strange. But at least it’s clear in which direction to “dig”. I hope the recommendation helps. And it will help not only the author of the letter. They also suggested a link on the forum, the cherished password with a high degree of probability may turn out to be “0000”.

Also an interesting question: will the "reset to factory settings" also reset this password if it was set by the previous owner of the device? Do not know. I'm a little paranoid, but the wording "factory reset" does not mean "destruction of all user data without the possibility of recovering it", legally everything is clean. If there was something valuable in the apparatus, then bury it and cremate it. It is possible without a funeral service, but certainly cremate, and not sell. Joking aside, but personally I don’t know how data is erased in smartphones and whether all data is really erased. The phone itself

30 GB on a flash drive or internal memory "erases" in some tens of seconds, and this is suspiciously fast for the complete destruction of data. And system partitions are unlikely to be erased, but where are the phones / passwords written to? Again, “I don’t know”, but it’s better to cremate the apparatus.

About changing tariffs/options, etc.

What happened is technically understandable, but not at all obvious to a normal person. Yes, we are all slightly telecom crazy, but since we are here, we will figure it out.

“Greetings, Sergey. You may be interested in the situation that happened to me when using the "Foreign" option. I didn’t use it much, 4 days, but for one of the days used, MTS charged a double fee.

A request to deal with the situation was politely refused, saying that there could be no mistake.

I have an assumption that while relaxing on the island of Corfu, in theory, an operator from Albania could have picked up, because. the country is not so far away, but the operator's customer focus is surprising. It turns out polite scam.

If the situation is of interest, then the correspondence with the operator is below. I hope as few people as possible will step on the same rake as me.

Hello, Roman Vadimovich.

The fact is that during the period you specified, your phone number was registered in the network of the operator of another country, and therefore there was a write-off for the "Zabugorishche Home Package" option.

All connections are automatically logged by certified equipment. Information about the connections included in the invoice is a direct confirmation of the fact of this action. Manual intervention in the formation of the account is excluded. Thus, all connections reflected in the details are in any case recognized as completed and are subject to payment.

The correctness of debiting your number was confirmed by the automatic settlement system, therefore, unfortunately, the money cannot be returned. Thank you for being with us!”.

Please for answering, and a special "please" for being with you. A smart person explained to me that the “Zabugorishche” option is connected and money is withdrawn once a day only when the connection is made “over the hill”. If there was a move on that day to another country within the scope of this particular type of tariff option, then there will be no re-withdrawal of money. But if the phone on the beach accidentally registered in the network of another country from another category of the “Foreigners” option, then the money will be written off again. After all, this is a different country and a completely different package of Zabugorishcha, and it will be written off from the balance sheet.

The good news is that when "returning" to the host country (the phone returned to the network), this "Zabugorishche" no longer debits money from the balance within a day. Otherwise, a “continuous cycle” of write-offs of the form country-country could turn out.

Summary

That's all for now. There are many more of your letters that need to be dealt with carefully, and I am gradually dealing with them, do not hesitate. Screenshots are warmly welcome. See you, friends! Even if there are a lot of letters and I don’t answer all at once, then this is not a stupid inattention, believe me. They usually complain to me about very difficult cases.